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Bantamweight Posts: 142 Join date: 2009-11-01

IMO, Gullotines don't take much skill to do, as long as you remember to push your hips up.

Lightweight Posts: 652 Join date: 2009-10-29 Age: 28

Japan-MMA wrote:

ref's got a bitchin watch.

Bantamweight Posts: 188 Join date: 2009-11-27

Gomi wrote:

IMO, Gullotines don't take much skill to do, as long as you remember to push your hips up.

lolk.

Welterweight Posts: 1435 Join date: 2009-10-28

GoForkYourself wrote:

ref's got a bitchin watch.

LOL. you're a details man! I would never have noticed that!

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Lightweight Posts: 652 Join date: 2009-10-29 Age: 28

Japan-MMA wrote:

LOL. you're a details man! I would never have noticed that!

for some reason it jumped right out at me. i probably noticed it so quickly because subconsciously i've always wanted to wear a watch like that or something.

Gomi wrote:

IMO, Gullotines don't take much skill to do, as long as you remember to push your hips up.

Depends. You could say they're easy, which I would agree with because even I've locked a couple on people in the first few classes since I started taking BJJ, but that was probably because they were also relatively inexperienced; I imagine that top grapplers are aware of it and aren't going to give you their neck

Bantamweight Posts: 142 Join date: 2009-11-01

LMW87 wrote:

Gomi wrote:

IMO, Gullotines don't take much skill to do, as long as you remember to push your hips up.

Depends. You could say they're easy, which I would agree with because even I've locked a couple on people in the first few classes since I started taking BJJ, but that was probably because they were also relatively inexperienced; I imagine that top grapplers are aware of it and aren't going to give you their neck

I was presuming that you already had their neck. With submissions like armbars, you have to make sure you pull the heels in, and break you opponents control over his arm, and then push your hips up. To me, the guillotine is like a more technical headlock, except under the neck.

Of course, in the above assumption, I am ruling out the possibility of your opponent having his arm in the guillotine. Then, I usually transition to an Anaconda Choke.

Bantamweight Posts: 188 Join date: 2009-11-27

Gomi wrote:

LMW87 wrote:

Gomi wrote:

IMO, Gullotines don't take much skill to do, as long as you remember to push your hips up.

Depends. You could say they're easy, which I would agree with because even I've locked a couple on people in the first few classes since I started taking BJJ, but that was probably because they were also relatively inexperienced; I imagine that top grapplers are aware of it and aren't going to give you their neck

I was presuming that you already had their neck. With submissions like armbars, you have to make sure you pull the heels in, and break you opponents control over his arm, and then push your hips up. To me, the guillotine is like a more technical headlock, except under the neck.

Of course, in the above assumption, I am ruling out the possibility of your opponent having his arm in the guillotine. Then, I usually transition to an Anaconda Choke.

lolk

Bantamweight Posts: 188 Join date: 2009-11-27

GoForkYourself wrote:

Japan-MMA wrote:

LOL. you're a details man! I would never have noticed that!

for some reason it jumped right out at me. i probably noticed it so quickly because subconsciously i've always wanted to wear a watch like that or something.

I rocked G-Shocks when I was like 12, but they're back in fashion, I guess.

Snacks wrote:

Gomi wrote:

LMW87 wrote:

Gomi wrote:

IMO, Gullotines don't take much skill to do, as long as you remember to push your hips up.

Depends. You could say they're easy, which I would agree with because even I've locked a couple on people in the first few classes since I started taking BJJ, but that was probably because they were also relatively inexperienced; I imagine that top grapplers are aware of it and aren't going to give you their neck

I was presuming that you already had their neck. With submissions like armbars, you have to make sure you pull the heels in, and break you opponents control over his arm, and then push your hips up. To me, the guillotine is like a more technical headlock, except under the neck.

Of course, in the above assumption, I am ruling out the possibility of your opponent having his arm in the guillotine. Then, I usually transition to an Anaconda Choke.

lolk

I normally ignore your posts, but given your knowledge of grappling and my beginning to get into it, could you explain?

Lightweight Posts: 652 Join date: 2009-10-29 Age: 28

Snacks wrote:

I rocked G-Shocks when I was like 12, but they're back in fashion, I guess.

oh yeah, g-shocks....

true story, i had a friend who had a "baby-g" watch or something and i was like "lawlz, what the fuck is 'baby-g'?" the end.

Bantamweight Posts: 188 Join date: 2009-11-27

LMW87 wrote:

Snacks wrote:

Gomi wrote:

LMW87 wrote:

Gomi wrote:

IMO, Gullotines don't take much skill to do, as long as you remember to push your hips up.

Depends. You could say they're easy, which I would agree with because even I've locked a couple on people in the first few classes since I started taking BJJ, but that was probably because they were also relatively inexperienced; I imagine that top grapplers are aware of it and aren't going to give you their neck

I was presuming that you already had their neck. With submissions like armbars, you have to make sure you pull the heels in, and break you opponents control over his arm, and then push your hips up. To me, the guillotine is like a more technical headlock, except under the neck.

Of course, in the above assumption, I am ruling out the possibility of your opponent having his arm in the guillotine. Then, I usually transition to an Anaconda Choke.

lolk

I normally ignore your posts, but given your knowledge of grappling and my beginning to get into it, could you explain?

Guilliotines are kind of tricky in that if it's not right, you can still catch it but you'll have to muscle it and risk burning yourself out. So alot of the times I have a roughly 5 second rule, if the choke is beginning to slip after 5 seconds, I just ditch it. The other thing is the way you have to grip and eliminate space to get the choke changes depending on the grip you use. I like a monkey/palm over back of the hand grip or depending if they shoot head inside, I'll lock up a 10 finger guilliotine and shove the head down to roll it into mount. But basically, there's alot more to the guilliotine than just thinking about it as a headlock that's under the chin. Numerous and practical sweeps are set up, as are transitions into other submissions. But my game is pretty much Leglocks, Triangles, and Guilliotines.

Bantamweight Posts: 142 Join date: 2009-11-01

Snacks wrote:

LMW87 wrote:

Snacks wrote:

Gomi wrote:

LMW87 wrote:

Gomi wrote:

IMO, Gullotines don't take much skill to do, as long as you remember to push your hips up.

Depends. You could say they're easy, which I would agree with because even I've locked a couple on people in the first few classes since I started taking BJJ, but that was probably because they were also relatively inexperienced; I imagine that top grapplers are aware of it and aren't going to give you their neck

I was presuming that you already had their neck. With submissions like armbars, you have to make sure you pull the heels in, and break you opponents control over his arm, and then push your hips up. To me, the guillotine is like a more technical headlock, except under the neck.

Of course, in the above assumption, I am ruling out the possibility of your opponent having his arm in the guillotine. Then, I usually transition to an Anaconda Choke.

lolk

I normally ignore your posts, but given your knowledge of grappling and my beginning to get into it, could you explain?

Guilliotines are kind of tricky in that if it's not right, you can still catch it but you'll have to muscle it and risk burning yourself out. So alot of the times I have a roughly 5 second rule, if the choke is beginning to slip after 5 seconds, I just ditch it. The other thing is the way you have to grip and eliminate space to get the choke changes depending on the grip you use. I like a monkey/palm over back of the hand grip or depending if they shoot head inside, I'll lock up a 10 finger guilliotine and shove the head down to roll it into mount. But basically, there's alot more to the guilliotine than just thinking about it as a headlock that's under the chin. Numerous and practical sweeps are set up, as are transitions into other submissions. But my game is pretty much Leglocks, Triangles, and Guilliotines.

It might be the quality of the fighters at my gym, or different methods I have been taught. I never EVER use the ten finger lock you mentioned, but rather the backhand grip. TBH, I don't use sweeps nearly enough as I should, but that's probably because I'm way better fighting off my back than on the mount.

Bantamweight Posts: 188 Join date: 2009-11-27

Gomi wrote:

Snacks wrote:

LMW87 wrote:

Snacks wrote:

Gomi wrote:

LMW87 wrote:

Gomi wrote:

IMO, Gullotines don't take much skill to do, as long as you remember to push your hips up.

Depends. You could say they're easy, which I would agree with because even I've locked a couple on people in the first few classes since I started taking BJJ, but that was probably because they were also relatively inexperienced; I imagine that top grapplers are aware of it and aren't going to give you their neck

I was presuming that you already had their neck. With submissions like armbars, you have to make sure you pull the heels in, and break you opponents control over his arm, and then push your hips up. To me, the guillotine is like a more technical headlock, except under the neck.

Of course, in the above assumption, I am ruling out the possibility of your opponent having his arm in the guillotine. Then, I usually transition to an Anaconda Choke.

lolk

I normally ignore your posts, but given your knowledge of grappling and my beginning to get into it, could you explain?

Guilliotines are kind of tricky in that if it's not right, you can still catch it but you'll have to muscle it and risk burning yourself out. So alot of the times I have a roughly 5 second rule, if the choke is beginning to slip after 5 seconds, I just ditch it. The other thing is the way you have to grip and eliminate space to get the choke changes depending on the grip you use. I like a monkey/palm over back of the hand grip or depending if they shoot head inside, I'll lock up a 10 finger guilliotine and shove the head down to roll it into mount. But basically, there's alot more to the guilliotine than just thinking about it as a headlock that's under the chin. Numerous and practical sweeps are set up, as are transitions into other submissions. But my game is pretty much Leglocks, Triangles, and Guilliotines.

It might be the quality of the fighters at my gym, or different methods I have been taught. I never EVER use the ten finger lock you mentioned, but rather the backhand grip. TBH, I don't use sweeps nearly enough as I should, but that's probably because I'm way better fighting off my back than on the mount.

It's brutal. Make a fist and grip the bottom pinky with your other hand, duck the back of their head into your sternum, and sprawl out while pulling up. If you can get the sweep it turns into a pretty brutal trachea crush. It works well on dudes that just try to drive doubles and shit.

The guilliotine off a Crucifix escape is also ridiculously brutal if you catch it right. Same side guilliotines are beast.

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