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Japan-MMA Welterweight

Posts: 1435 Join date: 2009-10-28
 | Subject: Best of 2009 - In Japan Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:58 am | |
| We are nearing the end of 2009 and pretty soon it will be time to review and see what the best fight were, best KO, best submission, best new fighter etc. Zaromskis should be in there with a KO chance, as well as Hornbuckle. What are your picks? I will spend the day looking through and finding my picks. All in preperation for January when everything is said and done. Some of my thoughts: Fight of the year:-Hideo Tokoro vs. Abel Cullum at Dream 9 KO of the year:-Marius Zaromskis vs. Jason High at Dream 9 -Dan Hornbuckle vs. Akihiro Gono at Sengoku 9 Submission of the year:-Naoyuki Kotani vs. Daisuke Nakamura at ZST 22 Breakout fighter:-Marius Zaromskis Comback fighter:-Kanehara -Shibata Comment of the year:-"Hello Japan!" David Gardner vs. Shinya Aoki Upset of the year:-Joe Warren vs. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto at Dream 9 Most disappointing fight of the year:-Shinya Aoki vs. Vitor Ribeiro at Dream 10 Worst decision:-Michihiro Omigawa vs. Marlon Sandro at Sengoku 9 -Michihiro Omigawa vs Hatsu Hioki at Sengoku 11 -Jason High vs Andre Galvao at Dream 10 Things that made me smile:-Alistair Overeem vs. James Thompson flying knee almost out of the cage. at Dream 12 -Marius Zaromskis vs. Seichi Ikemoto flip guard pass more to come.... And please contribute  _________________  Sig bet record 1-1 (1NC)
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CanCop Beginner

Posts: 8 Join date: 2009-11-13
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:02 am | |
| good list, if Omigawa would have won the Sengoku FW GP, then i would have said he was the comeback. |
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GoForkYourself Lightweight

Posts: 652 Join date: 2009-10-29 Age: 28
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:27 am | |
| i disagree with obiya. he hasn't even fought in 09 yet, and even if the fight with barbaro44 had been in 2009, he still struggled in that fight, and even though it was his comeback from a few disappointing fights and a long time off, there must be better comebacks out there.
off the top of my head i'd say shibata is the comeback of 09, with the huge win over minowa after years of losses, and the ko of ishizawa
and kotani's leg scissors of nakamura has to be one of the subs of the year.
edit: and regarding the comeback of 09, hiromitsu kanehara has to be mentioned too, stopping two guys with little trouble and drawing one of DEEP's top middleweights after going 13-1 since leaving rings. |
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KUSHZILLA Featherweight

Posts: 388 Join date: 2009-11-03 Age: 27 Location: Mastering the Rubber Guard
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:48 am | |
| | GoForkYourself wrote: | i disagree with obiya. he hasn't even fought in 09 yet, and even if the fight with barbaro44 had been in 2009, he still struggled in that fight, and even though it was his comeback from a few disappointing fights and a long time off, there must be better comebacks out there.
off the top of my head i'd say shibata is the comeback of 09, with the huge win over minowa after years of losses, and the ko of ishizawa
and kotani's leg scissors of nakamura has to be one of the subs of the year.
edit: and regarding the comeback of 09, hiromitsu kanehara has to be mentioned too, stopping two guys with little trouble and drawing one of DEEP's top middleweights after going 13-1 since leaving rings. |
agreee.. Shibata for comeback is huge...
i cant find that nakamura video bro.. any where i can see it...damn... Daisuke is one of my fave fighters |
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heavymetalnick Lightweight

Posts: 865 Join date: 2009-10-29 Location: Future Egypt with Mecha Mummy
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:34 am | |
| Yeah, i'd say Shibata for comeback and even though I wanted Nakamura to win, the picture of the leg scissors from Kotani looks awesome. For fight of the year i'd say Tokoro/Cullum |
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Japan-MMA Welterweight

Posts: 1435 Join date: 2009-10-28
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:08 am | |
| | GoForkYourself wrote: | i disagree with obiya. he hasn't even fought in 09 yet, and even if the fight with barbaro44 had been in 2009, he still struggled in that fight, and even though it was his comeback from a few disappointing fights and a long time off, there must be better comebacks out there.
off the top of my head i'd say shibata is the comeback of 09, with the huge win over minowa after years of losses, and the ko of ishizawa
and kotani's leg scissors of nakamura has to be one of the subs of the year.
edit: and regarding the comeback of 09, hiromitsu kanehara has to be mentioned too, stopping two guys with little trouble and drawing one of DEEP's top middleweights after going 13-1 since leaving rings. |
Will take Obiya off Kanehara is a very good replacement, and Shibata should be in there too.
I was thinking about Kotani's scissor choke submission, but havnt seen it so thought it would be hard to make it stick. The only fight I really had thought of was the Tokoro/Cullum fight was the only I have for fight of the year, but for some reason couldnt find it yesterday. Will look again today._________________  Sig bet record 1-1 (1NC) |
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bestrafer7 Welterweight

Posts: 949 Join date: 2009-11-24 Location: At the club with Boku.
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:15 am | |
| I compiled a list on subfighter before it crashed.  but I will try and remember the fights I had posted on there. |
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Raise Your Fist Featherweight

Posts: 294 Join date: 2009-11-03 Location: The Twilight Zone
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:16 am | |
| I guess I'm the only one that thought Omigawa actually beat Sandro (close fight yes, but I thought Omigawa won) |
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Gomi Bantamweight

Posts: 142 Join date: 2009-11-01
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:53 am | |
| I'd say a really bad decision was Jason High vs Andre Galvao. Galvao clearly won, in my opinion. |
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heavymetalnick Lightweight

Posts: 865 Join date: 2009-10-29 Location: Future Egypt with Mecha Mummy
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:05 am | |
| | Gomi wrote: | | I'd say a really bad decision was Jason High vs Andre Galvao. Galvao clearly won, in my opinion. |
I agree. I was rooting for High, so I wasn't really disappointed but i'd say that Galvao won too. |
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Snacks Bantamweight

Posts: 188 Join date: 2009-11-27
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:48 pm | |
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bestrafer7 Welterweight

Posts: 949 Join date: 2009-11-24 Location: At the club with Boku.
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:52 pm | |
| I will probably do this in stages since I couldn't find the list.
Best Submissions: (From fights I have watched or read about)
Koji Matsumoto vs Keiji Sakuta (Kneebar) - Shooting Disco 7 Yoshihiko Matsumoto vs Yuki Yasunaga (Triangle to Armbar) - Shooto GIG Tokyo 1 Shinichi Kojima vs Yuki Shojo (Chocked out cold by RNC) - Shooto Tradition 6 Gustavo Falciroli vs Daisuke Ishizawa (Triangle Armbar) - Shooto Revolutionary Exchanges 2 Shuichiro Katsumura vs So Tazawa (Brabo Choke) - Shooto Revolutionary Exchanges 3 Teruhiko Kubo vs Hiroki "Goodman" Tanaka (Armbar with 1 second left in the round) - DEEP Osaka Impact Shinya Aoki vs David Gardner ("Hello Japan" Rear Naked Choke) - DREAM.7 Jeff Monson vs Sergei Kharitonov (North/South Choke) - DREAM.8 Bibiano Fernandes vs Joe Warren (Armbar) - DREAM.11 Shinya Aoki vs Joachim Hansen (Armbar) - DREAM.11 Kazushi Sakuraba vs Zelg Galesic (Kneebar) - DREAM.12 Hatsu Hioki vs Chris Manuel (Triangle Armbar) - Sengoku 7 Chan Sung Jung vs Matt Jaggers (Triangle) - Sengoku 9 Max Fernandes vs Justin Holdaas (Armbar) - HEAT 9 Kiichi Kunimoto vs Shingo Suzuki (Arm-Triangle Choke) - Pancrase Changing Tour 1 Kenji Nagai vs Go Sato (Leg Scissors Choke) - Pancrase Changing Tour 5 Naoyuki Kotani vs Daisuke Nakamura (Leg Scissors Choke) - ZST 22 Toshihiro Shimizu vs Toshiyuki Yanagisawa (Mounted Triangle Armbar) - ZST SWAT! 30 Masamitsu Nakamura vs Shinya Irei (Anaconda Choke) - ZST SWAT! 26 Kuniyoshi Hironaka vs Naoyuki Kotani (Crucifix) - ZST 20 Shuichiro Katsumura vs Hiroyuki Yamashiro (Twister) - ZST 20 Masamitsu Nakamura vs Tomo Hasegawa (Leg Scissors Choke) - ZST SWAT! 23 Naoyuki Kotani and Tatsuya Yamada vs Yojiro Uchimura and Koji Tomiyama (Banana Split) - ZST 19 |
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GoForkYourself Lightweight

Posts: 652 Join date: 2009-10-29 Age: 28
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:54 pm | |
| | Raise Your Fist wrote: | | I guess I'm the only one that thought Omigawa actually beat Sandro (close fight yes, but I thought Omigawa won) |
nah i'm with you on that one.
Sandro/Omigawa decision really that bad? |
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 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:58 am | |
| | GoForkYourself wrote: | | Raise Your Fist wrote: | | I guess I'm the only one that thought Omigawa actually beat Sandro (close fight yes, but I thought Omigawa won) |
nah i'm with you on that one.
Sandro/Omigawa decision really that bad? |
As much as I've talked about the J-Rock bias in Sengoku I've definitely seen worse decisions than that (most recently Randleman/Nedkov was highway robbery) and I could have seen it going either way.
I actually didn't think the Galvao/High decision was that bad either. The Dream judges look for improvement throughout the fight and in the second round High was able to stop Galvao's takedowns and landed some good shots. If you try to project the fight onward until someone stops it High would have stopped it with strikes before Galvao stopped it with a submission imho. I could see the logic behind picking High in that one. |
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El Steezerino Flyweight

Posts: 54 Join date: 2009-11-04
 | Subject: Re: Best of 2009 - In Japan Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:14 am | |
| | JCVD wrote: | | I actually didn't think the Galvao/High decision was that bad either. The Dream judges look for improvement throughout the fight and in the second round High was able to stop Galvao's takedowns and landed some good shots. If you try to project the fight onward until someone stops it High would have stopped it with strikes before Galvao stopped it with a submission imho. I could see the logic behind picking High in that one. |
I agree that the decision for the fight wasnt so bad... the High/Galvao fight was so difficult to judge, I wasn't mad who ended up being the winner because both most certainly warranted a W with galvao dominating for the entire first round and high returning the favor in round 2.
As for the Sengoku judging, I didnt find Omigawa/Sandro or Kanehara/Zombie to be as bad as say the judging for the Gomi/Golyaev, Fujita/Ivanov, Hioki/Omigawa, and Randleman/Nedkov fights. |
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